Wednesday, May 14, 2008

Facebook Message Boards: Abortion, War, Prayer

Occasionally I will visit my facebook group sites and see if there are any interesting discussions. In my Pro-Life From Conception to Natural Death group, I found an interesting discussion on abortion and war. Some were suggesting that war often gets over-looked by pro-life advocates. I agree with this point, it often does get overlooked by pro-life advocates. War should always be avoided if at all possible, but war and abortion are separate issues. Abortion kills thousands more lives per day and therefore it is the larger pressing issue in my opinion. Not only that, but babies have no say in the matter whereas soldiers can expect to be put in harms way. I have copied the discussion I had on the messageboard with a woman who appears to have a guilty conscious. I will pray for her and her friends despite her response.

Post #11
Carley Cook (Notre Dame Academy)

i hear you... but you have to remember 4000 lives within 6 years and 5000 babies in one day. just a thought.

Post #12
Cassandra Marshall replied to Carley's

what are you saying, please elucidate. abortion is more pressing an issue than a war based on the number of lives? interesting since most PLers claim that you can't judge the value of human life based on quantity like that, but then turn right around and do so. You haven't added anything to the discussion.

Post #13
My reply to Cassandra's post

The number of babies being killed dwarfs the number who die in the war. Don't get me wrong, the lives of the soldiers are very important also, but the soldiers also know that they are putting their lives in danger when they join the army. Babies who are aborted have no choice period.

Post #14
Cassandra Marshall replied to your post

>>The number of babies being killed dwarfs the number who die in the war. Don't get me wrong, the lives of the soldiers are very important also, but the soldiers also know that they are putting their lives in danger when they join the army. Babies who are aborted have no choice period. <<

You did not answer my post, Sir. Thank you for stating the obvious, yes a fetus or an embryo does not have a choice, not conscious enough to make a choice anyway. A soldier may or may not. Several friends in high school joined the military b/c their parents kicked them out at 18, they didn't have th money/grades/desire to go to college. What is left? Maybe they joined thinking the commander in chief was intelligent enough to pick good battles so their lives wouldn't be in such danger so often.

My point was, how do you justify the value of life and what you want to do to try and stop injustice. I.E. is it more important for you to get involved and vote to try and stop a war, or vote to try and stop abortion and how do you justify your answer?

Post #15
My reply to Cassandra's post

While you can argue whether or not it was the right decision to go to war or not, you can not justify killing innocent babies. If you think someone can become president and end the war immediately without costing lives, you are mistaken. You say that quantity of lives doesn't matter, but I think that abortion is a much larger issue. That's just one man's opinion. I'm sorry if any of your friends are in harms way. I will pray for them. God bless!

Post #16
Cassandra Marshall replied to your post

Where, sir, did I say I think someone can end the war immediately upon taking office. I said take steps to end the war. You still did not answer my question, I did not realize it was that difficult for you. You think war and a woman's personal situation are not just as relative to each context? Can you answer that at least?

No need to pray for someone you don't know I will not be returning the favor and everyone I know, including myself is in harm's way every day.

Post #17
My reply to Cassandra's post

No harm can come from prayer. I can see that my opinion does not matter to you. I'm sorry if I have upset you in any way.

3 comments:

Mark D. said...

How about making the point to Cassandra that war and abortion are like apples and pomegranites, totally different things. War is not inherently evil; abortion is. It doesn't have anything to do with numbers. She is right that war is not a desired outcome but that doesn't mean you can lump it in with abortion just because human lives are lost in both.

Mike said...

I could have argued with her, but it was clear to me that she didn't want to listen to me or anyone else. I'm guessing she has either had an abortion or she has had a dramatic event in her life and she can not think clearly and takes her frustration out on others.

Anonymous said...

War is not inherently evil? Are you kidding me, terrorist caused this war because of their EVIL actions. Both of you are men. Try getting knocked up when you have been raped or have an abusive partner or are so broke the baby would suffer far far far more than having an abortion. Then get back to me when you actually put yourself in the situation. No one has the right to tell a woman what to do with her body ESPECIALLY a man!